Tim Talks: Behavioral Health
Tim Talks: Behavioral Health is a fast-paced podcast featuring candid, 10-minute conversations with leaders across the behavioral health field.
Hosted by Timothy Zercher, CEO of A-Train Marketing, each episode dives into what’s actually working in marketing, practice growth, and leadership — with a sharp focus on ethics, sustainability, and smart strategy.
Designed for behavioral health providers, practice owners, and executive leaders, Tim Talks delivers real insight from real operators shaping the future of care.
Short talks. Big insights. Smarter growth.
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Tim Talks: Behavioral Health
Matthew Harrington, BCBA | Ethical Marketing for ABA: Why Silence Can Be Harmful
In this episode of Tim Talks: ABA Therapy, host Timothy A. Zercher sits down with Matthew Harrington, BCBA and founder of ABA Digital Marketing Agency, to challenge a controversial idea: Is it unethical NOT to market your ABA practice?
Matthew brings a rare blend of clinical experience and marketing insight to the table, exploring:
- Why ethical marketing matters more than ever in ABA
- The biggest myths about local outreach and referrals
- How to scale without depending on paid ads
- Why clinical outcomes should drive your messaging
- The #1 shift he wishes all ABA businesses would make
If you're a clinic owner, BCBA, or ABA marketer looking to grow without selling out, this episode is a must-listen.
Timothy A. Zercher (00:00)
So Matt, you've worn multiple hats, both as a BCBA and now as a marketing agency owner for ABA groups. What sparked that big transition?
Matthew discusses the natural bridge between ABA and marketing, both of which are about behavior change. His shift began as a clinic director tasked with growth—without ads.
Timothy A. Zercher (00:43)
You talk a lot about ethical marketing in ABA. What does that mean to you?
Matt defines ethical marketing as truth-telling—representing the clinical experience accurately. He even argues it's unethical not to market if you're delivering high-quality care.
Timothy A. Zercher (02:02)
Some say it’s unethical for ABA agencies not to differentiate themselves. Thoughts?
Tim and Matt agree: differentiation helps families make informed decisions and improves outcomes.
Timothy A. Zercher (03:35)
A lot of local providers struggle with outreach. What’s a common myth you see around this?
Matt explains the myth of "one-and-done" outreach and emphasizes the need for consistent, scalable follow-up.
Timothy A. Zercher (05:44)
Marketing budgets are growing, but reimbursement rates are not. How do you help clients stay lean?
Matt focuses on building referral systems and local networks to reduce ad dependency while keeping clinics sustainable.
Timothy A. Zercher (06:10)
You’ve educated thousands of BCBAs. What lesson keeps surprising your audience?
Matt underscores the underestimated depth of continuing education post-certification and the need to specialize over time.
Timothy A. Zercher (08:00)
If you could wave a magic wand and change how ABA companies market, what would you change?
Matt says: demystify marketing. Most strategies are within reach for small and mid-sized clinics. The key is getting started with the right tools and mindset.
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